Latest JTF Video On Obama

For some reason, I can’t publish Live Leak videos on this blog. So go here to see the latest JTF video.

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52 responses to “Latest JTF Video On Obama

  1. where’s the flick?

  2. O, I see it. This is exactly why Obamba should NEVER be president of America.

    He brings racism, sexism, and reckless abandonment of safety for America.

    His wife is a disgrace, as specified in her own words in her “thesis.”

    But the good news is that HELL HATH NO FURY THAN A WOMAN SCORNED and that my friends is Hillary Clinton. Don’t let all the “numbers” fool ya, that woman will take Obamba out one way or another.

    JUST SAY “NO” to “O”

  3. it will be hard for Obama to sway the Jewish vote because he isn’ t Kosher and his association with his pastor who preached that the land of Israel is land stolen from the Palestinian with the help of the British Israel and Balfour doctrine. Wright also believe that modern day Israel has no kinship with Abraham nor are they Shemitic.
    http://joeland7.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/is-modern-israel-in-bible-prophecy/

  4. Face it, folks. What this ultimtely comes down to is not voting for a schvartze. Yes, Jews have been the victims of some of the worst treatment endured by human beings. But like all of us, you, too, are capable of some straight up racism.. To me, an African American, its another example of mean-ass white people. This is why I never pretend that America is sooooooooo free. Obama is a better man than I for even wanting to deal with this slothful, hateful place.

  5. a. european.

    you should be ashamed of yourselves.
    your current president has screwed up the whole world and made you the laughing stock of the whole world.
    now you (and the world) has the chance of a truly unique president, mr obama and you stupid people still want to vote for a new bush/mc cain. it is beyond belief.
    shame shame shame

  6. amir,

    You are a putz.

    I’d vote for any black person for president if he/she supported modern conservative values. Unfortunately, Obama is a far-leftist who attended a radical church for 20 years.

  7. hey european…

    before you try an interject your European superiority on us….do me a favor, and do some due-diligence….take a look at Chicago homie……it ain’t pretty….we have a political machine that has been controlling the city for 77 years….this machine has brought Obama to prominence…….at the same time this machine is responsible for squandering taxes, and bankrupting our public health system, and public transportation…while turning a blind a to corruption (see Rezko).

    I understand the gut, emotional, response is to support the African American guy, because its pc…I’m all for electing the african american, anyday……as long, as he is qualified……barack h. obama is not qualified…thats it.

    shalom…I’m out

  8. The level of ignorance and stupidity on the page staggers me…….yeah and Hillary’s qualified to what???…..lie about her “experience”? Pander to the right when it suits her? Mark up stories (help I’m under fire!) when it siuts her? Slash and burn the Party, just so she can have her way?

    This site has done one thing……it shows that jews can be just as racist as the stupidest, redneck ghoyim….way to go, guys

  9. You identified that Obama sympathises with the Muslim world. Am not sure that is the case but…what is the problem with sympathising with fellow humans if they have problems ??? or does your intentions to label other people less worth as humans than you amount to facism ??? I can’t understand. There are over a billion Muslims living and sharing these planet with you and vilifyng them doesn’t do you no good. I have seen video compilations by JTF and they are pathetic, intentional fabrications, lies and blatant deception of people deprived of the real facts of history and geopolitical issues.

  10. I am not Jewish! I am an American! Most politicians have their own purpose in getting into office. Obama grew up as a Muslim and has ties with his brothers. If he can meet with those that want to annilhate everyone regardless of their heritage then he needs to be rejected by the voter. Racism has nothing to do with these posts. He is a puppet for Iran and anyone that believes he is a christian needs their heads examined! Speaking of the term flip flop he is very good at this!

  11. A European, our President may have screwed up badly, but he has not screwed up the world. The world had all sorts of problems before even American existed: Poverty, war, disease, famine, corruption, dishonesty, cruelty, oppression, etc. I don’t see how our current President really affected those issues. Furthermore, I think that European nations are as likely to fall as we are, we have the same problems: lagging economies, government budget deficits, poor leadership, vicious left-wing extremists, terrorists who hate our guts, populations that need immigration to keep from shrinking, lack of patriotism, etc.
    To those who say Obama’s opponents are racist, not all of us fit that description. I would like to see Condoleeza Rice in the White House.

  12. Oh, and what is JTF’s view of John Hagee? rightwingjew.blogspot.com/2008/05/in-defense-of-john-hagee.html

  13. Monique—“Just Say No to O”! I love that!

    JKnight–I don’t know what the JTF opinion is of Hagee but I think Jews should follow McCain’s lead and distance themselves as much as possible from Hagee.

    I wrote a blog post about Hagee here

    http://www.israelforum.com/blog_article.php?aid=1467303

    What hasn’t been reported in the media at all is that on a John Hagee program broadcast on Wed. May 21, 2008 at 10 PM on the TCT Christian television network Hagee told his congregation that ANYONE who doesn’t believe JC was the son of G-d is (and please excuse the language) a “pseudo intellectual dildo.”

    This hasn’t been reported in the media at all but I heard it with my own two ears. So he’s basically calling all Jews that.

    Not to mention his outrageous and public comments about G-d sending a hunter (Hitler) to cause the holocaust.

    Again, I apologize for the language but it’s the only way I can convey truthfully what Hagee is like.

    If anyone can put Hagee’s words into a positive light I would be interested in hearing them.

  14. All that said, there are nevertheless bigger fish to fry so speak. Obama would be an utter disaster for this country. McCain was only seeking endorsements from right wing preachers to help him with the religious right.

    He never attended their churches for two decades–never at all period–and quickly and completely distanced himself from hagee and rod parsely.

    There is absolutely NO indication that McCain harbors their wacked out religious views and in the case of Hagee, anti-Semitic view.

    Obama has hedged and hawed on Wright. Obama shares Wright’s vision. He made Wright his childrens godfather, his childrens spiritual guide.

  15. Great points, Keliata. And welcome to my blog!

  16. So is this blog run by the same folks that handle hillaryis44.org?

    You seem to share in their degree of paranoia and irrationality.

    I don’t know how any faithful Jew would want grumpy old McCain in office, provoking all-out war with Iran and threatening the Israeli people with increased violence.

    Are you really this willing to cut off your nose to spite your face?

  17. Man you guys are going to be disappointed when Obama wins the election come November. I’ll be sure to steer clear.

  18. Thank you for the warm welcome, JTF 🙂

    Lasjdh: No offense but I think a lot of Obama supporters are going to be wringing their hands IF Obama wins the election G-d forbid. We’re at war with Islam and Obama is a Muslim, the writing is on the wall.

    I’m not thrilled with any of the candidates running but McCain is the best of the current bunch, and at least he served in Vietnam Nam and has war experience. That should be required for the commander in chief of the US military.

  19. Wow…I’m Christian but I don’t agree with John Hagee’s comments about non-Christians.
    “There is absolutely NO indication that McCain harbors their wacked out religious views and in the case of Hagee, anti-Semitic view.”
    Wait a minute…are you saying all those on the religious right are wacked out, or just John Hagee?

  20. As for the Jblog central link, are you meaning to say that they oppose Parsley’s statments? There are Koran verses promoting violence in Islam. (Not all of Muslims are bad, but I’m not 100% sure it’s a religion of peace.)
    Sura [4.74]: “Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world’s life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.”
    Sura [9.29]: “Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection. [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”
    Sura [5.51]: “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”
    Sura [9.28] “O you who believe! the idolaters are nothing but unclean, so they shall not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year; and if you fear poverty then Allah will enrich you out of His grace if He please; surely Allah is Knowing Wise.”
    Sura [2.190] “And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits. [2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers. [2.192] But if they desist, then surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. [2.193] And fight with them…”
    Sura: “[8.65] O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand.”
    Sura “[25.52] So do not follow the unbelievers, and strive against them a mighty striving with it.”
    Sura “[66.9] O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them; and their abode is hell; and evil is the resort.”
    Sura (8:55) – Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve

  21. I hadn’t expected this much of a reply my first time here but I’ll try my best to respond.

    JKnight–I am a former Christian (former Catholic). I am not painting all Christians with Hagee’s brush. And John McCain is an Baptist.

    What I meant to say is that McCain does not harbor Hagee’s wacked out ideas. I am not saying all Christians are anti-Semitic at all or have wacked out ideas.

    But anyone who believes that Hitler was sent by G-d to kill Jews just to force other Jews to make aliyah (move to Israel) is anti-Semitic and as wacked out as Hagee is.

    Of course Islam is a religion dominated by violence directed towards Jews, Christians, Americans, Israelis and even their own women and children (ie. honor killings, training Palestinians children to become suicide bombers. Check out the Palestinian TV show Young Pioneers on You Tube).

    McCain is distancing himself from outspoken preachers like Hagee and Parsely. Yes, Parsely is (correctly) critical of the very real violence in Islam but hoping on to the bible thumper bandwagon with him isn’t something a presidential candidate can and necessarily should do.

    McCain will deal with the threats of Islam as commander in chief of the US military, not on Christian television.

    Both pastors have a great deal of baggage. Hagee is an anti-Semite and anti-Catholic and Parsely rips people off for money on Christian television.

    While Parsely is correct in what he says about Islam, it would serve no real purpose for McCain to attach himself to either of these ministers.

    Let McCain fight Islamic terror from the White House and not the pulpit.

    That’s all I am saying.

    Obama wants to appease and cozy up to Muslims from the White House and has already expressed a desire to meet with Hezbollah, which is terrorizing Israel from Lebanon killing women and children. Children run for their lives everytime the tzeva adom (red color) alarm goes off. They have 15 seconds to look for cover before the kassam rockets hit. 15 seconds.

    I cannot say it strongly enough. What Parsely says about Islam IS truthful. But the baggage surrounding him for other reasons reduces his credibility. The last thing we need when we’re trying to put a president who WILL fight Islamic terrorism into the White House is to send out the message that McCain has ties to preachers with so much baggage.

    Obama is having trouble gaining the support of white, working class voters, they are uncomfortable with him. They think he is a Muslim, which he IS.

    All McCain has to do is hammer home Obama’s lies and his ties to Islam.

    He doesn’t need shady preachers (even if what Parsely says about Islam is true) for people to think he’s just as shady as Obama is.

    Did I answer your questions? 🙂

  22. TY for the link avideditor. Very informative indeed!

  23. Yes, you answered my questions. And I have seen some of the Young Pioneers episodes on YouTube, as well as some other Islamic “children’s” shows, and that is part of where I got my perceptions on Islam. Since it turns out that Hasley is a televangelist who’s in it for the money and not for God (according to what you just told me), I can see why McCain doesn’t neccesarily want his support, even though televangelists are popular for telling people what they want to hear, not what they need to hear.
    However, I’m not 100% sure Islam can be fought in the White House. It spreads like a disease. Although no President can or should fight Islam in the pulpit, the pulpit is the best way to fight Islam, because either converting people out of it or preventing people from converting into it is the only way to stop its spread.

  24. Jeff, I have nothing to do with that other blog.

  25. JKnight–you have made some excellent points about fighting Islam. Given the current system of politics, pressure and desire to PC culture Islam probably can’t be entirely fought entirely in the White House.

    But I think we can all agree that Obama not only wouldn’t fight Islam he would welcome it into the White House with him! It would be a complete and utter disaster for the United States and Israel.

    Obama’s Muslim background and open statements about wanting to meet and open up a dialogue with Ahmadinejad etc. are alarming. In my opinion there is no differnce between Ahmadinejad and Hitler. Obama and Ahamdinejad are like Hitler and Stalin.

    Islam is a cancer, it spreads like wildfire.

    I apologize if I inadvertently hurt your feelings with what I wrote on my blog. My opinion’s there are my own.

    The important thing is not McCain or these pastors put keeping Obama OUT. That’s what we need to unite on and speak out against.

    (sorry if I spoke out of line, JTF. I think JKnight and I are pretty much on the same page now)

  26. bottom line–I am just trying to think strategically about what is needed to keep Obama from becoming president.

  27. Do you all know how silly you sound when you call Americans “europeans?” And the worst example was referring to President Bush as a “european!” That is simply ridiculous beyond words.

    If an American went to Europe. let’s say Spain, and announced to the Spanish people there, “I’m a European,” they’d be laughed at, especially if that American only spoke ENGLISH! LOL !

    Let me see if I can explain it simpler: if someone from Europe, say France, came to America to visit their American relatives and didn’t speak a work of English and then called themself an “American,” we’d say, what???

    European is not a race. AND it does NOT mean “caucasian,” if that’s what you are trying to say. Please be informed that many, many Europeans are not caucasian.
    And “Jewish” is not a race either, it’s a religion. You can be Jewish and be of any race and from any nation.

    Such ignorance only begets racism and false and forced separatism.

  28. You’re correct on the European part. An American is not a European, though they can be of European descent, meaning their ancestors were from a particular country.

    Being a Jew is both a race and a religion. Kohanim have DNA that proves their lineage dates back to the time when their ancestors were priests in the temple and DNA tests on anusim are showing that they are descendants of Jews forced to convert to Catholicism in the Spanish Inquisition.

    Jews are a race, a family of people, whose religion is Judaism. There are Jews of different nationalities (Yemen, Israeli, Polish, Russian, American etc) but it is both a race and religion. Nation of origin doesn’t mean race.

    Converts to Judaism are 100-percent Jewish but they can never share the same DNA because they are not from the family of Jews that made a covenant with G-d in the Torah.

  29. Barack Obama is racially an African/Arab and caucasian. Religiously he is a Muslim, a descendant of Ishmael whom G-d said was “wild.” It’s in the bible.

    His ancestors nation of origin is Kenya, Africa.

  30. Keliata…you answered my questions. And I think you are right for the most part. However, I’m not sure I would compare Obama to Hitler. I don’t think he’s going to kill millions of people himself (although radical Islamists will certainly have an easier time doing so).
    Monique: “European is not a race.”
    I’m not sure what you’re trying to get at here.
    “AND it does NOT mean “caucasian,” if that’s what you are trying to say.”
    I’m not sure what you mean. Native Europeans are pretty much Caucasian, although there are people of all races in Europe now. I do agree that an American is not a European.
    I share Keliata’s view on the definition of Jews. But they come in all skin colors, so I wouldn’t really call it a race.

  31. Glad we’re pretty much on the right page, JKnight 🙂

    As just one man Obama won’t personally kill millions of people. He won’t hold a knife to anyone’s throat or shoot anyone himself.

    Hitler inspired millions to kill millions. Obama wants to open dialogue with people like Ahmadinejad who has made clear his desire to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

    Ahmadinejad is the figure most associate with a modern day Hitler but he can’t carry out his genocidal plans without the aid of others. Hitler had the aid of idiots like Chamberlin (British), Daladier (French), and I can’t recall what other world leaders.

    Obama will be one part of the modern Islamic Nazi/ Hitler movement. The modern day Hitler will be a composite–Ahmadinejad, Abbas, the leaders of virtually every Arab/Muslim nation and most fearful of all–Barack Obama as head of the world’s most powerful nation on earth.

    That’s why I am so against Obama becoming president.

    It’s terrifying to even consider. While I don’t think one man, Obama, will become another Hitler, Obama would be a significant part of the composite of the new Hitler.

    This Hitler will not be a person but a constellation of people and nations.

    That’s just my opinion though.

  32. And Obama is already sending out signals that he won’t be loyal to the US. In that famous photo where everyone else has their hands on their hearts during the national anthem Obama has his *&^^& in his hands. Literally. His body language says a lot.

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    Hillary Clinton went from being the “inevitable” President to just another Senator. What happened?

    Obama did a much better job of marketing. He sold what the left really wanted, which is stopping the war. He is doing a great job of keeping his message in front of the US people and in the press. He has built a powerful grassroots organization that is going to be a formidable competitor in the fall. I have put together a free report that shows you what those marketing strenghts are and what John McCain can do to counter them.

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  34. karl hungus

    This is the most racist bigoted shit I’ve ever seen. There are so many Jews that I have great respect for, and then there’s you racist pieces of garbage that give your whole race a bad name.

  35. Gilbert Brahms

    Just a practical note regarding format. The gray letters on white background are rather difficult to read. A more distinct contrast would help.

  36. Give me a break! Just because they don’t support Obama doesn’t mean they’re racist.

  37. Karl,

    If you’re referring to me, what exactly have I written that is racist? Obama wants to open dialogue with Iran. Fact. Ahmadinejad said he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Fact. The Palestinian show Young Pioneers, which teaches children not only to hate but violence against Jews not unlike the Hitler Youth. Fact.

    If you cannot see the writing on the wall I don’t know what to say.

    If I recall correctly, Rav Kahane said he didn’t care who his daughter married as long as it was a Jew. Color wasn’t an issue with him. Same with me. I am not against Obama because he is black, I am against him because he wants to deal with terrorists hell bent on killing Jews, Christians, Israelis and Americans.

    Hitler had to build ghettos, build concentration camps, shuttle Jews in via transports. He killed 6 million.

    Now we have Israel, a Jewish state. I think the Jewish population in Israel is close to 7 million. Israel is surrounded by hateful Muslim nations. One bomb and 7 million Jews could be destroyed in a single moment. Without transports, without concentration camps.

    These terrorist regimes are the same ones Obama wants to dialogue with. It has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with survival.

  38. Ben: Very interesting! Glad people are beginning to think of how best to market McCain. His people really do need to think of the best strategies to use.

  39. “It has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with survival.”
    I agree.

  40. I could not stand to read through all the comments posted. I realized about a quarter of the way through that nothing on here is of value. Islam is an unstoppable cancer? Really? It is a shame that many of you will not vote for a man based on rumors of his religious beliefs about a religion you do not even understand. There are about 1.3 billion Muslims in the world. We can not just kill off the cancer. It is also sad that prior to the Holocaust and the creation of Israel, some of the largest Jewish communities were in places like Iraq and Iran. Muslims treated Jews better then Christians for centuries until 1948. I don’t exactly know where I am going with this, but this world has become a very sad place. Hopefully Obama will change that.

  41. Well, my views on Islam come from the Koran itself.
    Sura [4.74]: “Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world’s life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.”
    Sura [9.29]: “Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection. [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”
    Sura [5.51]: “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

  42. So we have violence and hatred of Jews and Christians. You’re right: I don’t understand Islam. I don’t understand why it hates Jews and Christians so much.

  43. For those that have mentioned John Hagee’s comments and how there is a double standard when it comes to Rev Wright, I would invite you to look closely at Hagee’s comments and read the response from the Jewish community. First, Hagee is one of the strongest Christian supporters of the Jews. If you read his comments and you believe in God, you cannot disagree with what he said. If you believe the holocaust happened and you believe that God is all powerful and can do anything, then God allowed the holocaust to happen. If you die in an auto accident and God had the power to prevent it, then God let it happen or caused it to happen according to his plan. To compare what Rev Wright spewed from the pulpit with words like “God damn America”, and aids was created by the government to kill people of color, is completely ludicrous. To think that Wright only gave these sermons when Obama was not present is also ludicrous. Hagee’s comments can be considered controversial only if you believe that God does not exist or that he does not have power over all things. If you are a Christian and listen to his words, then there can be no dispute that God allowed the holocaust to happen just as he lets bad things to happen to people every day. If you believe in God then you cannot know his plan but must accept it as divine wisdom. I am not particularly religious but the belief in God comes with the belief that he is omnipotent. Before I am called a racist or a sexist let me tell you this. Margret Thatcher was one of my heroes. I would vote for Condoleezza Rice as a black and a woman or J.C. Watts as a black man, any day of the week. The reason I will not vote for Obama is because he is a socialist and because he is naive and has no experience. I do believe he shares the views of Rev Wright or at least tolerates them to his political advantage. The people of Illinois should demand a refund of his senatorial pay since he has been running for president every since he was elected to the senate and has missed or voted present on the majority of the legislation presented during senatorial tenure.

  44. Hi Hammer. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on Hagee. It goes beyond his comments about the holocaust.

  45. To those who say that there’s a double standard, Hagee wasn’t McCain’s pastor. Hagee may not even be a Christian. He doesn’t believe Jesus is the Messiah, and that doesn’t describe any Christian denomination that I’m familiar with. McCain attended Episcopalian (to 1990s) and Baptist (by 2000s) churches. In other words, Hagee was not McCain’s pastor. They weren’t even the same denomination.

  46. You’re absolutely right.

    In fact Hagee has been blasted in the Christian community for exactly that reason. And yet, Hagee is not a righteous gentile (Noachide) either because he pushes people to accept Jesus. A righteous gentile (Noachide)according to Jewish law believes in one G-d as Jews do.

    Hagee is a self-styled religious fanatic with his own interpretations of religion.

    What really bugs me is how some people are using Hagee as a litmus test to gauge one’s support for Israel.

    I support Israel with every fiber of my being and have spoken out on behalf of Israel but I am extremely leery about Hagee. It’s not just his ideas about G-d causing the Holocaust, which is repulsive enough.

    It’s also his statement that anyone (ie. Jews) who don’t believe JC was the son of G-d are “pseudo intellectual dildos.” Yes, he said that in an ungaurded moment when he thought only Christians were listening/viewing.

    Not to mention that in the 1990s Hagee’s church auctioned off the services of teenagers to raise money. Okay. Lots of people have these so called slave auctions but in advertising it, Hagee said, “Slavery Returns to America.”

    He said THAT in a southern US state. Not to mention calling the Catholic Church a “great whore.” How many coincidences does it take to make a fact? The man is a racist.

    Hagee is throwing millions of dollars at Israel and don’t think for a second that he doesn’t want something in return.

    As repulsive as I find Hagee and consider his rhetoric on par with Wright (they’re different sides of the same racist coin), the fact remains that John McCain NEVER attended Hagee’s church. Hagee isn’t the godfather of his children, Hagee wouldn’t be guiding McCain every action as president.

    Obama has already backtracked on his statements about an undivided Yerushalayim (Jerusalem). But he was all “pro-Israel” in his speech at AIPAC. Obama is a gifted liar and as his spiritual advisor Wright says, is just “doing what a politician has to do.”

    Lying.

  47. You are absolutely right. I think McCain did the right thing by refusing Hagee’s endorsement. However, I think he should have at least talked with Billy Graham.

  48. Yes. Billy Graham would have been a step in the right direction. He’s regarded by many of the “Protestant Pope.”

    His credibility could certainly help McCain.

  49. It would also help Conservative critics know he wants our support.

  50. absolutely.

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